Todd and Cathy discuss what it means to experience messy and how messy, but necessary, conversations can cause discomfort and uncertainty. They discuss why others are not always bad or wrong, and how we can see the nuance and grey in every situation. They discuss how enlightening or self-aware moments can look different for everybody, and how a Good Will Hunting moment isn’t the only example of catharsis.
3:06 What’s messy look like?
6:37 Good Will Hunting Clip
9:03 Emotional labor
17:22 The toilet seat
29:09 Teeth Brushing
34:10 Team Zen
35:45 Examples of messy
37:30 Awakening
40:58 Short-term vs long-term
45:00 The word nag
52:40 How to fight
59:07 When kids don’t do what we want them to do
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