Cathy and Todd discuss creating new habits during the pandemic – for some this can add structure, and for others this can feel too overwhelming. They share the difference between people who are enjoying this time of shelter-in-place, and those who are working harder and taking risks so we all can feel safe and cared for. They also discuss the show Alone and why we need to take care of those who are by themselves, and why relationships are the things that matter most.
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